Sunday, March 29, 2009

[ Noakhali Online Group ] Sumit & All (Subject- Shame on You ...!!!)

 Dear All,
The mail below is the mail of Nil Olin. He has some problem with the net and could not connect with the group. I am sending this on his behalf... Nipu.
 
 
 
 

Dear Sumit,

Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).

The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?

Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 

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Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers).

Regards

Nil Olin


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[ Noakhali Online Group ] Shame on you!!! - - - Sumit

Dear Sumit,

Its difficult for me to believe that you compared Bangladesh Army with Pakistan Army (of 1971).

The members of Bangladesh Army are the sons of this soil, on the contrary the member of Pakistani Army were the aggressors in 1971. They were killers and rapists. On the other hand our Armed forces fought for our beloved mother land.  Do you know the name of our Bir Shersthos? Other Gallantry Award Holders ? Sector Commanders? Brave commanders of other military operations in 1971? These (almost) all are brave souls of our Armed Forces. Our Army is imbibed and inspired with the spirit of our great Liberation War 1971. You relate this army with Pakistan Army?

 

Shame on you – my dear friend!!!! 

Note

Sumit, Soldiering is a pretty tough profession. Only a highly motivated man can undergo such hardship. Any wrongly motivated person may think it to be oppression. Please don't stand in support of killers. In that case you suck the blood of your own dead brother (of course, if you consider the martyrs to be your brothers). Nil Olin


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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

Dear Mr Sumit,

with all respect to u, I feel to say something. Army or military is not to be compared with any of the service/profession, coz that is of special type. ami janina apni kothai asen, but I'm sure, other than military service, nobody joins his/her service by taking OATH that he/she will be ready to face a bullet/ give the life anytime....anywhere.....WITHOUT ANY QUESTION. it doesn't matter whether he is an officer or soldier. they remain ready at all times to give their life for the nation. jokhon crisis hoy, tokhon kintu military'r member rai nijer family....bhai....bon fele mrittyur mukhe egiye jai, ar baki general people ra kintu nijer family shamlaite ar polaite besto hoiya pore. so what for we'll sacrifice our life....family???

u talked abt special facillities. actually I was smiling while reading this comment and thinking that, "Nodir epar kohe ccharia nisshash..........". for ur kind info, officers can avail transport facility once a week (on payment), NOT ANYTIME (eita mama barir moa na re bhai) and for 4 hrs. and most of the time, officers below the rank of Major doesn't get that chance due to shortage of vehicle. do u know the status of a Major according to Warrant of Precedence???? I think no. he is equivallent to Deputy Secy(DS)....SP of Police. do u know what transport facility a DS of SP gets?????? any police officer, whether he is an ASP, Sr ASP, Addl SP (these 3 are Junior to Major) or SP gets Full time vehicle to use for any purpose (though there is limits of KM but I've not seen anyone following that). in compare to that, a major is using an on payment transport for 4 hrs in a week.........which u ppl can't tolerate. see the fun:D. let alone other facilities which Police officers and others get but Military officer doesn't get. like a DS or UNO or SP gets a Banglow type/or big house to reside whereas Army officer gets an old quarter which also have acute shortage and many officers had to rent house. an UNO, SP gets Mali, cook, and other helping hands all the time but an army officer, if he is not very senior (level of Addl Secy, DIG) doesn't get that. there are many more. but kakossho poribedon kore to lav nai, bahir theke onek kisui chakochikkyomoy mone hoy, ja dekhe superficial comment amra bangali ra valoi kore thaki.

 I think shortly u'll say that military officer and soldiers should have same status, same salary,.....same facility....bla bla bla,  because all are human and u ppl are very much humanitarian. do u know that officers take their food in mess on payment? per day for 3 meals, each have to pay on an average 150 Tk? whereas the soldiers are getting those food for free???? actually lot many logics i can site but I thing those will be ORONNE RODON. ami ahsole murkher moto emon uncomparable matter nia compare korte chai na.......ota bokader kaaj.

shotti selukas. u have compared BDR incident with thge reason of our liberation war. yeah, it can be comparable in a way that this BDR incident was far more brutal than that of liberation war.

some 7 crore jei takar kotha apni ullekh korecchen, do u actually know what is the purpose of those and how they were spend. apnar dharona mote oigula mone hoy amla/police na onnoder moto army officer-e pete dhukecche. he he......amar ashole eishob immatured kothabarta pore hashi pacche. kharan ektu haisha loi.

ajke potrikai porlam, BDR-er 4 jon soldier mara jaowai human rights besh mukhiye utthecce, tara oi mrittyur karon jaante chai (jekhane oi karongula......ja shavabik, koyekbar-i bola hoyese). I think apnader moto jara bhabe, tarai HR -er ei dabi ke shagoto janaben.....support korben. kothai cchilo apnader ei human rights jokhon nirostro brilliant armi officer der shoshosro hayenara nirmombhabe kach theke gulo korese? family'r upor raat-birate pashobik nirjaton chalaise??? koi kono HR to oi shomoy shocchar hoy nai? ashole jar ma-bon nirjatito hoy, jar bhai-bap mara jai shei bojhe. onader to kokhono hoy nai tai bechara-ra emon shishushulov kotha bole arki!!!:)

juddhe ba crisis-e shobar age military der pattthano hoy, do u think that only soldiers go there and officers doesn't? ar jokhon tara jai, tokhon tader family-ke ke nirapotta dibe?? apni??? huh!! do u think that militay and other profession is same??
 
jara juddho kore, tara jane sheta ki. ar jara bou-er anchole lukiye theke juddher shomoy nijer akhor gocchai, lej gutiye palai,  tader shathe shahoshi joddhader tulona hoi na.

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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers


HA hahahahah MANOBOTA. Manobota ! Manobota !! Manobota !!!  ..... ki jeno ay sobdotar artho.
 
Manobota aj mukher fashion.Amra jara manobotar kotha boli amader nijeder kache ki ache manobota??? amra ki manobotar sundor manosikotar.,komol hredoy sottar mullo dite perechi.Amra aj so called adunik hoye gesei....mullobodh hariye felesi..ar tai amra hoye poresi manobotahin. manusher manobik dak akhon amader hrodoye sara jagaina......Amra hameshai manush ke vul buji...sotto prochar karii ke grina kori.
 
amra akhon asotto..asundor....vibotsota asober songi hoye gesi...
 
abar amrai ase sundor ar manobotar jonno gogon bidari chitkar tuli......
 
 
haire manobota? sukune khawa mreto poshur moto bisree aj tor obosta.....
 
 
sobai valo thaken
--- On Sun, 3/29/09, khaleda islam <khaleda66@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: khaleda islam <khaleda66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers
To: Noakhali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 4:50 AM


Dear Ahsan,
 
hmm MANOBOTA -Ekhon Prosno Biddo ?????? kintu keno?? Ekhon sobae takar pichone ghure....... ..... taka hole sob kichu mile........ SONMAN, GARI, BARI, sob kichu -so, MANOBATAR kono dorkar nae.......aache K???????  Sotti Ovag hoe vabchi Kothae jacchi amara din k din......... ....
 
Jani na e des r amader kapale ki aache....... ......... ........ta aaj Prosnobodk ?????
 
sobae valo thakben onek valo lagae.
 

--- On Fri, 3/27/09, ahsan uddin <ahsanbn@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: ahsan uddin <ahsanbn@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers
To: Noakhali@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:06 PM

Bhai ki r bolbo. dhikkar janai desher proshashon-er proti, jara ei borbor ghotona ke dhamachapa debar paitara korse. media-o tader shohayotai korse. shobai halar takar kacche bikocche. MANOBOTA word-ta shobar dictionary theke mucche gecche.

ar amra bicchinnobhabe ki korte pari? bangali ke taka dilei shalar bangali nijer bhai-ke porjono khun kore. e kon deshe asi amra khoda malum. ami prai Bus-e kore dhaka shohore jatayat kori. manusher sharthoporota, osthirota, nijer dhanda, omanobikota dekhe ami ahoto. nijeke khub oshohai mone hoy.



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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

Sorry for mistake in my last email
kotha ta hobe "Ekjon Army office chaile jekono somoye "On Payment" Gari nite pare cantonment theke jate sei Army officer er dite hoi 10-15 Tk per hours only.
 

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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers

Khaleda Apa,
 
Manobota niye kotha bolte gele kintu Bangladesh Army ke niye o kichu kotha bolte hoi. Amar mone hoi eta obosshoi Todonto kora uchit je sotti i ki 29 E Dec. er Election duty korar jonno dewa 7 Cr tk 25 th Feb porjonto BDR jowan der majhe dewa hoi ni naki? & arekta jinish amar mone hoi open secret je Bangladesh Army always i Govt er je kono officer theke beshi sujog subidha vog kore aasche ja kichu kichu khetre Onoitik o.
Example hishabe ami bolte pari Ekjon Army office chaile jekono somoye "On Payment" Gari nite pare cantonment theke jate sei Army officer er dite hoi miles proti 10-15 Tk per km only. jar mane Army officer berate jacche (jehetu On Payment ta Official khetre nite hoina) tate o Ami, apni tar gari vara hishabe minimum 50tk vortuki dicchi. & monthly kotobar On Payment e gari newa jabe seta o temon mana hoi bole ami shunini.
emon onek gulo oshongoti kintu Bangladesh e chole ashche. Jekhane amar desher LPO vukto Non-Govt. teacher ra 3/4 mash por por beton pai ta o oi beton er tk uthate ghush babod proti masher ordhek beton chole jai, jekhane amar deshe Krishok ke tar pawna tin Local MP theke kine nite hoi (as you know Mr. Falu did so last session) sekhane emon shob subidha ekta class er manush ke pete dekhle dinke din khob barbe i.
 
I proshonge aro ektu kotha bole nei.  1971 er Mukti juddher sutropat kotha theke? Pakistan Army & Pakistan Govt. er Sadharon Bangali bonchito, nipirito hote hote ek somoi ei khov dana bedhe suru hoi shadhikar aandolon. Somaje emon boishommo amar mone hoi karo i kammo noi.
 
Boishommo sudhu Khov & Ghrinar i Jonmo dei valobasha jonmo deina.
 
Hoitoba aapnara kew vabchen aami hoitoba BDR jowan ra ja koreche tar somorthone kotha bolchi. Kintu na tader ami somorthon kori na kintu prithibir jekono pranter itihash khuje dekhle i amra dekhte pabo je Nipirito ra jokhon ghure darai tokhon tar porinoti hoi VOYANOK.
Proman er jonno amader 71 i jothesto bole ami mone kori.
 
Prithibir onek jaiga te i Army dinkedin ekta voyonkor shobde porinoto hocche.
Ami asha korbo Amader Prio Gen. Moin U Ahmed obosshoi ei BDR ghotonar todonter pashapashi BDR der nejjo odhikar theke bonchito korar kono ghotona ghotechilo kina ta khuje dekhben.
(personally Ami Moin U Ahmed ke onek pochondo kori as he is a brave son of Noakhali)
 
R karo jodi amar kothar kono jinish opochondo hoye thake sei khetre juktijukto answer ami sobsomoy i pochondo kori.
 
 
Regards,
Sumit Awal
 
2009/3/29 khaleda islam <khaleda66@yahoo.com>


Dear Ahsan,
 
hmm MANOBOTA -Ekhon Prosno Biddo ?????? kintu keno?? Ekhon sobae takar pichone ghure............ taka hole sob kichu mile........SONMAN, GARI, BARI, sob kichu -so, MANOBATAR kono dorkar nae.......aache K???????  Sotti Ovag hoe vabchi Kothae jacchi amara din k din.............
 
Jani na e des r amader kapale ki aache........................ta aaj Prosnobodk ?????
 
sobae valo thakben onek valo lagae.

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Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers


Dear Ahsan,
 
hmm MANOBOTA -Ekhon Prosno Biddo ?????? kintu keno?? Ekhon sobae takar pichone ghure............ taka hole sob kichu mile........SONMAN, GARI, BARI, sob kichu -so, MANOBATAR kono dorkar nae.......aache K???????  Sotti Ovag hoe vabchi Kothae jacchi amara din k din.............
 
Jani na e des r amader kapale ki aache........................ta aaj Prosnobodk ?????
 
sobae valo thakben onek valo lagae.
 

--- On Fri, 3/27/09, ahsan uddin <ahsanbn@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: ahsan uddin <ahsanbn@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ Noakhali Online Group ] Our Journalists & Intellectuals stood beside Killers
To: Noakhali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:06 PM

Bhai ki r bolbo. dhikkar janai desher proshashon-er proti, jara ei borbor ghotona ke dhamachapa debar paitara korse. media-o tader shohayotai korse. shobai halar takar kacche bikocche. MANOBOTA word-ta shobar dictionary theke mucche gecche.

ar amra bicchinnobhabe ki korte pari? bangali ke taka dilei shalar bangali nijer bhai-ke porjono khun kore. e kon deshe asi amra khoda malum. ami prai Bus-e kore dhaka shohore jatayat kori. manusher sharthoporota, osthirota, nijer dhanda, omanobikota dekhe ami ahoto. nijeke khub oshohai mone hoy.


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